The peak of awareness

You taught for a long time at Tama Art University, so you must be used to lecturing.

I'm not used to lecturing and I've forgotten everything about Tama Art University. I don't want to remember it. Teaching isn't good for an artist. Your creative spirit gets ground down, worn away. Artists who wind up as teachers in a place like that lose everything in the end.

Do you mean that you exhaust your creativity through speech?

That's right, it gets used up. That's the nature of creativity. Your words and your best intentions aren't going to make something into art. You have to approach art as nothing but the real thing.
In other words, in your everyday life you have to orient the routine world around you towards art. You need to look at things in a creative way. What exactly does this mean and how does one go about internalizing it? As an artist, you have to build up a penchant for abstraction. Everything around you contains a germ of creativity, doesn't it? You just have to find it. In the same way that we are possessed of a consciousness, things have a spiritual center, an inner strength and structure. That is to say, a latent potential. And you have to be able to detect this potential. To be able to actualize it. If you can't steer your consciousness in this direction, you'll have difficulty seeing things as they are. You can't bring creativity to bear upon a thing unless you place that thing at the peak of your awareness. This time, I decided to see how much latency I could bring to the surface. And since the interior is connected with the exterior, I had to consider the outward appearance of the thing, how it will be perceived. You go from outside to inside.

Kishio Suga

installation view at Tomio Koyama Gallery, 2008
© Kishio Suga

But what part of the exterior do you focus your awareness on? Rather than absently taking in the whole, you have to find your own point of entry. The task is to plumb the potential of the thing. Because this potential mirrors the viewer's consciousness, the higher the level of that consciousness, the greater the thing's potential. People and things share awareness to an extraordinary degree. The task is to constantly maintain this level of consciousness.

Is this sensation of a constant level of awareness present both when you are working and when you are away from work?

It continues whether I'm asleep or awake. Of course, I do think of superfluous things?gI like this person,hgWhat do I want to eat?h etc.? but I think it's important to always try to maintain this creative awareness. Out of awareness arises a kind of language or mode of communication. I become aware of the disparity between the conventional way of seeing the thing and my new vision of it. Then I have to decide how I want to realize that disparity, how I want it to look.
So, I develop a creative system to solve this issue. Ifll carve here and paint there; the activity takes on a physical dimension. By this point, I have a dialogue with the thing and have developed a feeling for its inner workings. I find myself moving from my initial idea to a more haptic understanding. I start to use all five senses to determine how I want the thing to feel, how I want it to look. I doubt Ifm the only artist who goes through this process.

Kishio Suga

"pluralization", 2007
wood
122.0 x 243.0 x 6.8 cm
© Kishio Suga

When you are working, do you start with an image of the piece you would like to make or does that image arise while you are in contact with your materials?

They parallel each other. For example, I may want to transform something and come up with a new creative expression. First, I develop the idea in my head. The idea then leads me to entities in the physical world, i.e, do I make it in wood, or in steel, or in stone. Unlike the physical world, my original idea reflects the chaos of my mental state. So, when I bring this disorder into the ordered world there is a gap, and out of this gap comes meaning.

Kishio Suga

L to R "state of gathered and buried", 2007
wood
243.0 x 122.0 x 6.8 cm
"latent plurality-2", 2007
wood
243.0 x 122.0 x 6.8 cm
"plurality", 2007
wood
h.101.0 x w.45.0 x d.45.0 cm
© Kishio Suga

So, in the passage from mental construct to physical matter, a host of nuances arises?

Yes. Or rather, the artist brings these nuances into being. Instead of recasting what exists, you create your own meaning, or words, or concept, or perception. There is an enormous difference between artists who can do this and those who canft. As the titles of my work indicate, itfs a matter of reconceptualization. I think this unfamiliar phrasing affords viewers a glimpse of a world beyond their ordinary one.
The main thing is to think about art, all year long. Thatfs number one. While asleep, while awake, even if people call you a fool, just keeping thinking about it. This way you can maintain your ideas and perceptions. Art isnft something you learn. You have to internalize your awareness and thoughts, and then bring whatfs inside to the outside. When you do, youfll be certain to find a part of yourself within.

Kishio Suga

"enter", 2007
wood, plaster
left h.47.5 x w41.0 x d.44.0 cm / right h.48.0 x w.44.0 x d.41.5 cm
© Kishio Suga

The title for the wall works, Fukusoka (complexification), is original and posits a new theory. It gradually shifts towards notions of potentiality. And to discover the reasons for this transformation, we have to look at the works.

Thatfs right; youfve got to see the works. Every piece is imbued with a different sensation. This aspect is one of the pleasures of the work.
That work is called Naika (internalization), and clearly depicts the friction between the inside and the outside. By nature, material things have insides, but since we canft see the insides, we can only grasp them on a gut level. Ifve taken this image in my head and pushed it out to the surface. And the friction I mentioned creates these lacerations in the wood. Or possibly the wood is absorbing the gashes Ifve made in a hypothetical process of internalization.

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